Answering Objections: "Latin Mass Words of Consecration are non-traditional?" Defending Sedevacantism- Part 7
Refutation of the Video’s Objections
Summary
The video features "Father" Eric Gilbaugh downplaying the differences between the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and the post-Vatican II Novus Ordo Mass, claiming that the changes are exaggerated. He argues that the Roman Canon and words of consecration remain mostly unchanged, with the biggest difference being the offertory prayers. He also points out that the phrase "mystery of faith" was inserted into the words of consecration in the Middle Ages and later removed in the Novus Ordo, suggesting that this was done to return to the "original words of Christ" from the Last Supper.
In contrast, Bishop Santay refutes this, affirming that "mystery of faith" was inserted by Saint Peter himself and has been present in all traditional Catholic rites. He criticizes Vatican II for removing it, explaining that the Novus Ordo instead inserts "Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again", which shifts focus away from the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. He argues that this change was made to appease Protestants, who reject transubstantiation, and that the new Mass represents a Protestantization of Catholic worship.
Key Quotes & Analysis
1. "The differences between the preconciliar Mass and the postconciliar Mass are often exaggerated."
This is an outright false assertion. The Novus Ordo is not a mere revision of the Tridentine Mass but a liturgical revolution.
Pope St. Pius V, in Quo Primum (1570), canonized the Tridentine Mass in perpetuity, forbidding any substantial changes. Vatican II, in direct opposition, dismantled the traditional Catholic liturgy.
The Novus Ordo redefines the Mass from a propitiatory sacrifice into a community meal, stripping it of its Catholic essence.
2. "The words of consecration are essentially the same."
This is misleading. The Novus Ordo changes "for many" (pro multis) to "for all", which distorts Catholic theology.
The phrase "for many" reflects Catholic dogma—that Christ’s sacrifice, while sufficient for all, is efficacious only for the elect.
Changing this to "for all" suggests a universalist heresy, implying that all are saved regardless of faith and moral state.
3. "The words ‘mystery of faith’ were inserted in the Middle Ages and later removed to return to just the words of Christ."
This is a Protestant argument disguised as historical revisionism.
Mysterium fidei was not a medieval addition but part of the earliest Catholic liturgies, with strong evidence that Saint Peter himself included it in the Roman Rite.
The removal of mysterium fidei in the Novus Ordo serves an ecumenical agenda, aligning with Protestant theology which rejects transubstantiation.
4. "Vatican II removed ‘mystery of faith’ and replaced it with ‘Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.’"
This is a Protestant insertion that distorts Catholic teaching.
The true mystery of faith is the transubstantiation of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ, which occurs at the moment of consecration.
The replacement phrase shifts focus away from the sacrificial nature of the Mass toward a Protestantized eschatological proclamation.
5. "This was put in there to appeal to Protestants because they hate the Holy Eucharist."
This aligns with the sedevacantist position that Vatican II was an act of deliberate subversion, orchestrated to Protestantize the Catholic Church.
The Novus Ordo downplays the doctrine of transubstantiation and removes sacrificial language to make the Mass more acceptable to heretics.
The true Catholic Mass has always been a sacrifice offered to God, not merely a communal gathering.
Takeaways
1. The Novus Ordo is an Invalid and Illicit Mass
The radical liturgical changes introduced after Vatican II represent a rupture with Catholic Tradition.
The Novus Ordo was created with input from Protestant advisors, resulting in a rite that lacks the theological precision and sacrificial nature of the Tridentine Mass.
By altering the words of consecration, removing mysterium fidei, and shifting emphasis away from the Real Presence, the new Mass is highly suspect in terms of validity.
2. Vatican II’s Changes Were Deliberate Attempts to Weaken Catholic Doctrine
Removing mysterium fidei is just one example of the systematic dismantling of Catholic Tradition by the Vatican II hierarchy.
The new theology of the Mass focuses on human participation rather than Christ’s sacrifice, which is a fundamental break from Catholic dogma.
The priest’s role has been reduced, making him more of a "presider" rather than an ordained priest offering sacrifice in persona Christi.
3. The Vatican II Sect is No Longer the True Catholic Church
By attempting to erase Catholic doctrine to appease Protestants, the post-Vatican II hierarchy has forfeited its legitimacy.
The sedevacantist position holds that the Vatican II "popes" are heretics who have usurped the Catholic Church, replacing it with a false ecumenical religion.
This aligns with the prophecies of Our Lady of La Salette, who warned that Rome would "lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist."
4. True Catholics Must Reject the Novus Ordo and Adhere to the Traditional Mass
The only valid and true Catholic Mass is the Tridentine Latin Mass, which has remained unchanged in its essentials since Apostolic times.
The Novus Ordo is dangerous to the faith, leading Catholics into theological confusion and Protestantized worship.
Catholics must resist the Vatican II Church, attend only valid traditional Latin Masses, and recognize that the post-conciliar Church is a counterfeit.
Conclusion
This video serves as a stark contrast between modernist post-Vatican II clergy and true Catholic teaching. "Father" Gilbaugh’s arguments reflect the errors of Vatican II—downplaying the radical changes to the Mass, distorting history, and pushing a Protestantized agenda.
Bishop Santay, on the other hand, exposes how Vatican II was an act of subversion, designed to strip away the Catholic identity of the Mass and replace it with something that heretics would find acceptable.
This is further proof that Vatican II was a false council, and that the Novus Ordo Church is not the true Catholic Church. True Catholics must reject the Novus Ordo, return to the pre-Vatican II faith, and recognize that the Vatican II sect is an apostate church masquerading as Catholicism.